I'm really encouraged by the 3K dual language programs that you just shared. I think as a parent who does speak more than one language at home, it is incredibly attractive to me to ensure that my child is exposed, right? And I think the transition— I'll just give you the example of my older daughter where we spoke Spanish at home.
She enrolled in a New York— an NYCPS 3K program, and it was wonderful for vocabulary, but no bueno for Español. It really felt like she lost a lot of that. Then we intentionally kept her there so that we could enroll her in pre-K. It felt like that was not happening across the district, in District 32, for example, but really in all of my council district.
I'm really interested in wanting to ensure that, yes, we expand getting all the things we need. I think the concern is obviously the pipeline for all things early childhood education, but obviously, especially if we're talking about immersion programs and dual language, there's a shortage. I think it's really important for us to really spread the word that this is a direction the city is moving in.
I don't know any parent whose enrolled their kid in dual language and regretted it, to be honest. I think there's so much value there. I hope that we can do it and I hope that we can really talk about investment to be able to expand. How are you all looking at expansion for dual language programs? I know that you shared the specific rubric, But just equity-wise, are there school districts in New York City right now that don't have a single dual language program?
If there is, how do you plan to expand? How are you all looking to continue to expand it? What do you need? First, I want to just say one thing in response to what you were just talking about in terms of the path for children to be able to articulate from program to program, and then I'll turn to my colleagues to talk a little about expansion, but do you want to just of course, highlight, obviously we're talking about schools and the continuity opportunity within schools.
We also know that so many of our community-based organizations and family childcare homes provide an incredibly rich multilingual experience for children. And for many families, that may be where they are comfortable with their child attending early childhood education for a variety of reasons, including language access. And we certainly want to help families understand those pathways as well, that they can learn in their home language in a community-based program or a family childcare setting and then articulate into kindergarten at their local elementary school.
So for families, the pathways may not necessarily mean staying in the same building, but certainly we want to make sure we are talking about all of our early childhood settings and the language opportunities within them. But I'll pass to my colleagues to talk a bit more about future expansion. All right, thank you. So, thinking about ways that we'd again could provide our families with more access, one of our current strategies is to convert certain classrooms into dual language programs.
So, what we're working towards with school leaders and districts is thinking about ways that we can invite, you know, schools that already have a dual language program to open up additional classrooms. But like my colleague Dr. Garcia suggested or shared, Our offices work closely together so that there is this more intentional focus and look on what the data suggests and what we can do to now meet those gaps, specifically around making sure that if there is going to be an elementary school down the street that has, you know, a dual language program in Italian, thinking about ways that the local preschools, pre-K centers, family networks can kind of like offer those programs too, so that when the child continues through their, you know, education career, they have that solid continuity and foundation around their partner language that they have been engaging in since they were smaller.
And what is the— I guess just to your point about, you know, encouraging schools to open up new classrooms for the potential of dual language, what is— what does that look like? I feel like my experience with the department regarding early childhood education, it feels like the data and the seat allotment don't match, in my opinion, in some of these districts.
And so how are you all looking, like what is the data that you're looking at? Like how are you able to justify that or rectify that? And are you, in these scenarios, are you asking, are you potentially thinking about additional seats or? or having those schools potentially move seats from existing programs and switch them over to dual language?
So we look at that data and think about, you know, this is a good problem to have, right? We've got the family demand, the seat numbers are what they are, and then the family demands are another sort of like data set. So again, thinking about ways that we can intentionally support and expand those programs, but at the core of that work is always gonna be around like family need and family, you know, requests.
And then thinking about what the supports would be like for that particular school, if there are going to be any needs around, you know, getting a certified bilingual teacher to teach that program. Those are the things that we're considering. And again, it's just more around factoring all of these different elements to make sure that when we do expand, it's intentional.
We don't want to expand for the sake of expanding. We want to make sure it's done well and it's done right and it's sustained for years to come. I mean, I understand it has to sort of feel like the perfect storm to have all of those things in motion. What have— has that garnered any success in opening up new classrooms?
The current strategy right now is to convert classrooms, and there are leaders who are 100%, like, excited about it. My team and I have been on the field. kind of just getting like the interest ideas, the surveys around like what schools and communities are already asking for. And to answer your question, yeah, leaders are completely open to that strategy.
But we haven't started, we haven't opened up a new classroom just yet. Not yet, no.